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Bill O'Reilly Insults Homeless Vets, Calls Them Junkies

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:48:51 PM PDT

For those of you who have been following the saga, Bill O'Reilly originally ripped into John Edwards for mentioning the plight of homeless veterans.  O'Reilly originally denied that there were any homeless vets at first, then when pressed said he'd get any homeless vets off the street if he knew of any.

But it seems now he's reneged on that deal, instead saying that he'd just pay for a homeless vet to travel to John Edwards' house.  Why won't Billo take them in?  Probably because he thinks they're crazy and on crack!

Go below the fold for the video...

This goes to show the double standard that the right has with regard to "supporting our troops".  If a liberal had said the things that Billo said, we'd be seeing round-the-clock news coverage bashing the liberal (and rightfully so).  But when you're a conservative, not only can you bash someone who is demanding that America really support our veterans (as opposed to just putting a yellow magnet on a car) you can say whatever you want about the people who defend our country and come out virtually unscathed.  

I'd call Bill O'Reilly a scumbag, but that'd be an insult to scumbags.

Tags: Bill O'Reilly, Veterans, Homeless Veterans, John Edwards (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Why Is It... (7+ / 0-)

    ...that I have never, in my life, heard the term "class warfare" used for policies & language benefitting and advocating for the rich?

  •  The convenient thing about O'Reilly is... (5+ / 0-)

    ...that month after month he offends more and more blocs of Americans with his nasty-assed fabrications.  

    At the rate he's going, the day he dies will be enshrined as a national holiday and we'll all be off from work every year, dancing in the streets and swinging at the giant Brillohead pinatas that hold more of worth than O'Reilly's head ever has.

    "Injustice wears ever the same harsh face wherever it shows itself." - Ralph Ellison

    by KateCrashes on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:06:32 PM PDT

    •  If everyone isn't doing that when he dies (1+ / 0-)

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      I know I will be.

      "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" Abraham Lincoln

      by dashat on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:21:34 PM PDT

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    •  I don't want him to die..... (1+ / 0-)

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      I think it would be much more satisfying to see him live through twenty years of Democratic Party governance---and seeing faux reduced to doing what it does best---the Simpsons. Much more fitting punishment.

      it tastes like burning...

      by eastvan on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:17:15 PM PDT

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  •  Olbermann lit into Bill-O over this last night (9+ / 0-)

    He once again named Bill-O one of his Worst Persons in the World, but also called wingers such as him hypocrites for being so callous toward our veterans. Keith even told that crowd to go to hell.

    John McCain's Straight Talk Express runs on fossil fuels.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:07:59 PM PDT

  •  I guess Bill O'Reilly doesn't (4+ / 0-)

    think that if 200,000 vets are homeless, not because of the economy but because of addiction and mental illness, that that isn't a crisis.

    I also guess that Bill O'Reilly thinks that if people aren't barefoot and eating shoe leather, they aren't really poor.

    I'd love for Bill O'Reilly go to a place like a village in Russia or China and have him say with ta straight face that because some villager has a color TV, a cheap DVD player and a hookup to a sattelite TV dish that that villager isn't poor.

    See you at the debate, bitches!

    by calipygian on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:09:51 PM PDT

  •  I just don't understand him (8+ / 0-)

    (thank goodness) Like it is okay if 200,000 US veterans are homeless because they are addicted or mentally ill? How does that even make any sense. I am having nasty flashbacks to the 80's when Reagan emptied the mental hospitals and homelessness soared.

    We still haven't recovered from that and now this yahoo says this? Oy.

  •  A lot of homeless vets ARE junkies (6+ / 0-)

    A lot of right-wing pundits are junkies. There are junkies everywhere. I suspect, however, that a lot of homeless vets are junkies BECAUSE of their combat experience and lack of support when they returned. O'Reilly put up a straw man about vets being homeless because of the economy; Edwards never said that as far as I know. I continue to be amazed, although maybe I shouldn't be, at how inhuman some of these commentators are.

    "Maybe life's meaning is not so much found, as it is made." Opus, by Berke Breathed

    by Lisa in Bama on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:17:31 PM PDT

  •  Don't ever stop (5+ / 0-)

    beating up on this guy dj.

    Keep up the good work!

    "The truth is rarely pure and never simple." The Importance of Being Earnest, Act I, Oscar Wilde, 1895

    by Cordelia Lear on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:21:47 PM PDT

  •  I want to see what percent of "poor" people (1+ / 0-)

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    who own a tv are addicted to drugs and we aren't talking poor pot heads... addicted to meth, heroin, crack.... give me those numbers brillo pad!

    "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" Abraham Lincoln

    by dashat on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:23:30 PM PDT

  •  What a douche (3+ / 0-)

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    What a complete douche. Such an incipient ass.  

  •  Beyond Homelessness, Billo brings up "Mental (1+ / 0-)

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    Illness" and the total crap that the VA/DoD has been shoving up the Vet's arse for waaaaaaaaay too long.

    How much addiction can be traced to 'self-medication' because real mental health care has been denied or is out of reach. How about a big Shout Out to the Billo Reaganista Heroes that decided that people with mental illness got tossed to the curb if they "just didn't suck it up or didn't pull themselves up by the boot straps that you don't have"?

    The same Billo and the Buckos that will piss and moan because one of their rich bubbas looses his job for a "nappy headed ho'" comment, but think that the weakest deserve ridicule instead of a helping hand.

    A lot of people think that addiction needs to treated like a chronic illness.

    Billo, Buckos and the NOT Compassionate Conservatives.

    "...fighting the wildfires of my life with squirt guns."

    by deMemedeMedia on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:47:03 PM PDT

  •  I actually work with homeless vets (3+ / 0-)

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    I am a person who actually works with homeless vets.  I work in a VA hospital, and we have programs for the homeless as well.  Our pharmacy actually distributes a flyer about refills that says, "All refills will be by mail order.  Exceptions made only for homeless vets" - now that's government compassion.  If you dont' have an address, you don't have to get your meds through the mail order program.  I have complained about the harshness of the flyer many times.  ANyway, these folks are quite real to me because I see them every day.  And substance abuse does play a part in it because they can't go into a shelter if they are going to continue to drink alcohol and use drugs.  Also they are not allowed to take weapons into the homeless facility, and a lot of these guys don't want to give up their guns and knives - they would rather camp in the forest or live in their car.  Maybe we should get an armory where they could check their weapons in and get them back once they get an apartment.  With my patients the big issue is the long wait for benefits after they are discharged.  There is a gap of about a year between discharge from the military and getting all the benefits squared away, and in that interval, they don't have much to live on.  Add to that the fact that they are not used to paying for the necessities of life like rent and food and utilities - these things are covered in the military and the paycheck can go entirely to discretionary spending or to savings or paying off debts.  Anyway, the only point I wanted to make is that all these folks who are fussing about homeless veterans probably don't know any personally and are using their existence or their plight to further their own careers and interest.

    •  ArmyGirl, experiences from the late 1970s (0+ / 0-)

      as a vet trying to get through the VA maze suggest to me that the cosmetic "reforms" following the "discovery" of the shoddy treatment the VA metes out -- with the full cooperation and approval of the GOP -- have not only not improved the situation for men and women who offered their lives, gave their bodies and hearts and souls and sweat and blood and tears for a highly ungrateful nation, but have actually increased the suffering of the majority of the veterans whose care is in the hands of a vengeful bureaucracy.

      Do you know why those men and women don't want to give up their weapons? You dismiss their concerns so lightly -- "they can't get into a shelter." Experience suggests to me that a shelter isn't the ultimate goal for these men and women anyway, and a program aimed at getting them into what should be an emergency stopgap isn't in the best interests of the veterans.

      Those cars and camps in the woods are defensible spaces where privacy and dignity, and whatever solace a vet can find in peace, quiet, and self-medication are not such horrid alternatives compared with crowded "shelters," where hygiene is questionable if it exists at all and one not only does not know who is in the next pallet or cot but dares not trust whoever may be in that next pallet or cot. Dares not.

      Defending the VA and its failures by blaming the vets for taking what measures they can to protect themselves against an ungrateful nation is no help to the veterans IMNVHO.

      I'm another Edwards Democrat

      by BlackSheep1 on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:30:43 PM PDT

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      •  the dom (0+ / 0-)

        The specific shelter I am referring to is our own "domicillary."  It is a shelter on the VA hospital grounds where the homeless vets can stay until they move on to a house in the community and eventually get on their feet.  It is much nicer than homeless shelters that are for the general public.  At least in this shelter, they are with other veterans, four to a room.  But in order to get in, they have to be off alcohol and ilicit drugs, and they can't take their weapon with them.  I don't find these rules unreasonable.

        I don't know that I am defending the VA exactly.  I am often apalled by how little they have for the vets in terms of specialty care and how limited the formulary (pharmacy) is.  They want us to use 30 year old drugs that are cheap rather than more modern meds like celebrex, lyrica, modafinil, etc.  

        I am a war veteran myself, with a 90 percent disability rating.  I do agree with you that the nation is ungrateful for what veterans have offerred.  But I think much of your hostility toward me is undeserved.

  •  At It Again Heh ? (1+ / 0-)

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    People like Borilley should be sent to fight our wars . But then , we would never have a chance at winning them .

  •  I emailed Orally (3+ / 0-)

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    and told him what I thought of him. I am one of those vets that if I wasn't living with my sister I could be homeless. My disability check doesn't even come close to providing for an apartment, utilities and food.   If he had wanted to he could have gotten the information about how many homeless vets there really are by just going onto the VA internet sites. He attacked Senator Edwards for doing his job- getting information from a reliable source.
    Unfortunately Bill is like Bush..if you point out they are wrong they act like you are an idiot and how could YOU be so wrong..then they smirk and laugh.

    "Sweet Jesus I hate Hannity"

    by shanti2 on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:46:21 PM PDT

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